On Friday, Megyn Kelly, host of “America Live with Megyn Kelly” (weekdays, 1 – 3 p.m. ET on Fox News) invited Lou Dobbs and Erick Erickson on to chat about their panel discussion the previous day on “Lou Dobbs Tonight.”
Dobbs, along with Erickson, Doug Schoen, and Juan Williams, reacted to new studies showing that 40 percent of households with children have women as the primary breadwinner. Yes, the panel was all male.
“What we’re seeing with four out of 10 families now, the woman is the primary breadwinner,” Williams said during the “Lou Dobbs” panel discussion. “You’re seeing the disintegration of marriage, you’re seeing men who were hard hit by the economic recession in ways that women weren’t. But you’re seeing, I think — systemically, larger than the political stories that we follow every day — something going terribly wrong in American society. It’s hurting our children, and it’s going to have [an] impact for generations to come.”
Erickson, editor of RedState.com, commented, “When you look at biology, look at the natural world, the roles of a male and female in society, and the other animals, the male typically is the dominant role,” he said. “The female, it’s not antithesis, or it’s not competing, it’s a complementary role. We as people in a smart society have lost the ability to have complementary relationships in nuclear families, and it’s tearing us apart.”
Erickson said that in nature, the male is typically dominant. He later wrote that children in a two-parent traditional household will more often than not be more successful than children of single or gay parents.
“We should not kid ourselves or scream so loudly in politically correct outrage to drown the truth,” Erickson wrote on his RedState.com blog. “Kids most likely will do best in households where they have a mom at home nurturing them while dad is out bringing home the bacon.”
On her show, Kelly told Erickson that she did not appreciate his comments. “What makes you dominant and me submissive, and who died and made you scientist-in-chief?” Kelly asked Erickson.
Kelly said plenty of data suggest that children in homes with homosexual parents or working mothers are as healthy and able to thrive in society as children with stay-at-home moms. Kelly, a mother of two with one on the way, dismissed Erickson’s contention that he wasn’t judging others.
“I don’t like what you wrote one bit,” she said. “I think you are judging people. You sound like somebody who is judging but wants to come out and say ‘I’m not, I’m not, I’m not, but let me judge, judge, judge. And, by the way, it’s science and facts, facts, facts.’ But this is a list of studies saying your science is wrong and your facts are wrong,” she said, holding up a stack of papers.
Erickson criticized the studies, saying they’re “politically motivated.”
Dobbs, meanwhile, was interrupted by Kelly when he said that damage is done to society by the breakup of marriages and the rise of single-person households.
“Why are you attributing that to women in the workforce?” Kelly demanded.
Dobbs said, “Let me just finish what I’m saying, if I may, oh dominant one.”
“Excuse me?” Kelly replied, her eyebrows rising.
Kelly told the men that 50 and 60 years ago there was a wide belief in society that the children of interracial marriages were inferior. “They said it was science, and it was fact,” she said. “If you were the child of a black father and a white mother or vice versa, you were inferior and you were not set up for success. Tell that to Barack Obama.”
After the “Lou Dobbs” panel discussion, Greta Van Susteren, host of “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren” (weeknights, 10 – 11 p.m. ET on Fox News), took to Twitter (@gretawire) and her own blog to express her disbelief at the comments made by her network colleagues.
“Have these men lost their minds? (and these are my colleagues??!! oh brother … maybe I need to have a little chat with them) (next thing they will have a segment to discuss eliminating women’s right to vote?).”
Look, I’m glad Kelly and Van Susteren slammed their male colleagues for beliefs that are outdated by at least 60 or 70 years. Erickson seems like he’d just as soon have wives home vacuuming in heels and pearls a la “Leave it to Beaver” and “The Donna Reed Show.”
But the discussion on Kelly’s show indicates how little we’ve come over the past decades, with Dobbs calling Kelly “Oh Dominant One” and accusing her of calling on Erickson because “he’s more fun.”
My take? The men know they’re out of their league.