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Brave, Mark Andrews

Director Mark Andrews Discusses the Making of Brave

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Brave, Mark Andrews

Robbie Coltrane, Katherine Sarafian (producer), Mark Andrews (director), Kelly Macdonald, & Kevin McKidd

Brave, one of my favorite family movies of all time, hits DVD and blu-ray this week, and director/writer Mark Andrews has created a gorgeous piece of artwork — yes, I’m calling it artwork — that’s sure to live on for generations.

Andrews is no newbie to the family movie genre. He joined Pixar Animation Studios in December 2000 and has worked on four of the studio’s feature films. He served as story supervisor on The Incredibles and Ratatouille and as a storyboard artist for Cars. He also contributed to the story of Toy Story 3.

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In addition to his work on Pixar’s feature films, Andrews co-wrote and co-directed the Oscar-nominated short film One Man Band and provided his talents to Walt Disney Pictures’ John Carter as second-unit director and co-writer alongside the film’s director and Pixar colleague Andrew Stanton.

But he didn’t start his career with Pixar. Prior to that, Andrews was a storyboard artist on several animated films, and received an Annie Award from ASIFA-Hollywood for his work on The Iron GiantThe New Adventures of Jonny Quest, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Samurai Jack, and Spider-Man are some of the other projects he’s worked on. Phew!

We caught up with Andrews, who discussed the making of Brave, about a headstrong Scottish teenager who finds her place in the kingdom. The film debuts tomorrow on Blu‐ray Combo Pack, HD Digital and On-Demand.

How do you feel about joining the elite group of feature film directors at Pixar Animation Studios? As I understand it, only five had had that honor before Brave.

We’re in very good company, and I’m surrounded by fantastic mentors. Their wealth of experience was always ready at hand and helped me become a better filmmaker.

What I love about Pixar films is that we’re always trying to push the envelope and not be formulaic. With Brave, we’re telling a story that audiences are going to get wrapped up in. We put a lot of honesty into making this film. At the end of the day, I’m proud of the work we’ve done. I’m proud of the difficult times and I’m proud of the good times, because I didn’t go through it by myself, I had a lot of good, talented people going through it with me — great warriors by my side.

Brave, Mark Andrews

Talk a little about Brave

In a nutshell, Brave is about a young woman named Merida and her struggle to find herself — to reconcile how the world sees her with how she sees herself. The most important thing to Merida is her bow and her horse and the free time that comes with them. So she’s a phenomenal archer. She loves to be outside racing around the Scottish countryside on her horse Angus.

Merida’s relationship with her mother, Queen Elinor, is broken. They have their differences about what’s expected of Merida and the responsibilities that come with growing up. It’s all about changing your fate. And Merida — feeling the constraints of castle life tightening around her — desperately wants to change hers.

The main theme is being brave, finding the courage to let go. Merida is a very brave character — she climbs cliffs, shoots arrows, fights bears — but it’s really that bravery of the heart that’s the hardest.

Can you relate to the film’s family themes?

I have a daughter and three sons, just like Fergus and Elinor. It’s a parent-child relationship that’s at the core of this film — mothers and daughters or dads and sons, it doesn’t matter.

The future doesn’t mean anything to any teenager, especially to Merida. There’s a chemical thing in teenagers to fight back — they want to figure out the world for themselves. They’re burgeoning, becoming the adults they’re going to be, and that’s the really chaotic transition that’s all through this movie.

I was a kid, so I get the other side, too, when you just want to be left alone and find out the answers for yourself. A great truth of the universe is that no matter how much we as parents advise or help our children, they’ve got to make their own mistakes just like we did. And we have to suffer through the pain all over again watching them do it.

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In your view, what makes the movie special?

We’re really pushing the envelope in terms of cinematography, lighting and photography. We found new ways to create texture and took human characters to the next level. The movie has unprecedented subtlety in its performances.

This film is very rich and very tactile. The thing about Brave is that you want to reach out and touch it, you want to feel everything in the movie from their gowns and kilts to the big red mess of curls on Merida’s head. That’s what brings a special kind of warmth — a personal connection — to the big screen.

When audiences go to Brave, they’re going to get this great, emotional, character piece about this parent/child relationship, and they’re also going to get a great adventure. They get to travel to Scotland and see magic like they’ve never seen before. There’s comedy, passion and wonderful characters. It’s a fantastic ride.

Is Kelly Macdonald anything like Merida?

Kelly is so alive and vibrant with a great charm, wit and quirkiness that totally works for Merida. The character is funny and goofy and can laugh at herself, but has this Scottish teenage angst. Kelly Macdonald is the soul of the character, and she makes Merida truly appealing.

Talk about Elinor. 

Elinor is a Queen, bar none. She is the ultimate authority, she’s the diplomat, she’s the lawmaker. She handles everything in the castle from planning the feasts, to entertaining guests, to setting all the rules. She’s doing what she feels is the right motherly thing in her efforts to prepare Merida as well as she can for the future, but she doesn’t realize it’s at the expense of their mother-daughter relationship.

Emma [Thompson] is royalty in the acting world and she knew exactly what Elinor needed to be. She is queenly and regal and noble, but at the same time, she can be bawdy and funny. She can be very serious and theatrical — then crack a joke. That’s exactly who our queen is. Emma gives Elinor just the right amount of emotion, earthiness and humor.

What about Fergus?

Fergus is this immense Highland warrior — the kind of guy who wears a bear cloak. He’s loud and boisterous, kind of like me, and full of guts and wisdom. He lost his leg to the demon bear Mor’du and will tell the tale to anyone whether they’ve heard it or not.

I have a great affinity for Fergus because I’m just a big kid. He’s gregarious and open and there’s no rules for him, which puts him on a very different level than Elinor, who’s actually running the kingdom.

When it comes to his daughter, his wife and his little boys, there’s also this soft side to Fergus. He’s a great dad, he’s fun to be around and he tells the kids stories and plays with them. Merida’s relationship with King Fergus is a special one. They’re really close as father and daughter; they’re very similar. Merida’s very brave and speaks her mind and is loud like Fergus. They both have red hair and would never shy away from a fight. They both like to tell stories.

Billy Connolly is exactly like Fergus in that he’s this gregarious comedian, who’s smart as a whip, has a great wit and just wants to tell stories all the time. The recording sessions were a riot — like life imitating art — we would take a break and get a half-hour of incredible story time with Billy. It was just hilarious.

Who are the Lords and how do they fit into the story?

The Lords are the leaders of the neighboring clans. They don’t like each other, but they pretend to like each other in front of Fergus and Elinor. They’ll brawl at the drop of a hat and it’s up to Fergus to settle them all down — though he’s more inclined to join the fight himself.

Lord Macintosh is a skinny guy with curly hair and a big blue painted tattoo on his face. He’s very surly, and becomes an aggressive pit-bull at the blink of an eye. His son has long flowing locks and a temper that makes him quick to fly off the handle just like his dad.

Lord MacGuffin is huge — a descendant of the Vikings. His eyes are hidden beneath heavy brows and his voice comes out like a big thunderclap. His son is just like MacGuffin, but with a baby face and he speaks a dialect that’s impossible to understand.

Then you have Dingwall, who’s the shortest, oldest and most haggard of the lords, but he was fearsome in his time. He’s like that cantankerous old guy who sits on his porch and yells at the neighborhood kids, “get off my lawn!” That’s Dingwall. Wee Dingwall is his guileless and awkward son.

The triplets are hilarious. Talk a little about them. 

The triplets run around the castle, causing all matters of chaos and getting into trouble. They’re constantly a plague to their nanny, stealing all her sweets and escaping scot-free through some nook or cranny in the castle. They play practical jokes on Fergus and anyone else they can find.

The will o’ the wisps are so gorgeous and magical. Talk about their place in the story. 

The will o’ the wisps are in a lot of Scottish folklore. They were said to lead you to treasure or doom — to change your fate — but they’re an actual phenomenon of swamp and bog gas seeping up through the earth and interacting with the natural resources to create the blue flames. People would follow these lights thinking they were little fairies, and basically drown or get sucked down into the bogs. So we made the wisps like actual little spirits.

They appear when Merida needs them most — when she’s in an intense emotional state and a big transition is going to happen. Merida has a big argument with her mother and she gets on Angus and rides out into the woods. They end up in a ring of these giant, monolithic stones that form a perfect circle. It’s in that circle that Merida first sees the will o’ the wisps — these blue mythical creatures that look like little floating flames and whisper in this mesmerizing way. They line up like little landing lights and beckon her to follow.

They’re almost like Marley’s ghost in a way, because Marley’s ghost isn’t an evil spirit — even though he’s frightening, he’s trying to warn Ebenezer to change his ways. That’s what the wisps are doing. There’s a duality to them, because they’re either good or evil — they lead Merida into more and more trouble, but in the end, they’ve led her exactly where she needs to go.

The witch is a pretty interesting character.

Yeah, she’s this little old hippie grandma who does wood carvings — all bear-themed carvings — rocking chairs, mugs, pipes. She’s really a witch who gave up witchcraft because of too many unsatisfied customers. Merida gets her over a barrel and insists on a spell to change her mom so she can change her fate, because she thinks her mom is the only obstacle. Of course it goes, terribly, terribly wrong.

The setting of Scotland is perfect for this movie, just beautiful. Talk a little about that. 

Scotland is just filled with myths and legends. It’s a magical place — rugged and majestic. The colors there are dark and moody and, at the same time, bright and cheery — all thanks to the crazy weather.

The people are hospitable, warm and friendly, and they take you in right away. They’re all fabulous storytellers. I’ve never been so enraptured and terrified by heroic tales and ghost stories. One of the things we really wanted to emphasize with Brave was that every character is a storyteller in his own right and every location has a story.

The look of the film is gorgeous! Steve Pilcher, who’s the production designer, and his team really captured the diverse and weathered Scottish environment — from the heather in the Highlands to the giant Gannet Scotch Pines in the forest to the scoring on the standing stones. When you watch this movie, you’re not just seeing a movie, you’re going to Scotland.

I am Scottish — on my mother and father’s side. We came over hundreds of years ago, so it’s all but bred out of me, but my wife and I went there on our honeymoon and spent a month exploring the Highlands. It is a pretty amazing place.

There’s some great bonus features on the DVD/blu-ray set. Talk about the research trips the production team took to Scotland.

We had two fabulous opportunities to roam around the Highlands of Scotland with a couple of guides. We went everywhere from Edinburgh up into the Highlands to the lochs and glens. We were on the Isles of Skye, Harris and Lewis, meeting people and talking to them, and everybody had a story. The girls we met sang in Gaelic, which is amazing and haunting.

We went to places like the Fairy Queens mound, which is this rock formation that’s just sitting out in the middle of nowhere. We saw the Standing Stones of Callanish and Pictish stones and great castles that were crumbling and some that were rebuilt to the glory of what they used to be. We got rained on and hailed on — there were sunny days, windy days and cold days … and sunny-windy-cold days all at the same time.

Brave, Mark AndrewsOk, let’s get into it. Do you own a kilt?

I have four kilts right now. One’s a traditional kilt; I have two other kilts that are the short, regular kilts I can wear casually at work or to formal occasions. I have a sport kilt for Highland Games. I have a kilt for pretty much any occasion.

Any interest in archery? 

When I was growing up my dad tried to get me into the normal sports — football, basketball, baseball — I played them, but really wasn’t into it. They weren’t satisfying for me. So then I turned to martial arts and that led to weapons and especially the bow and sword. I started taking archery in earnest. There was something meditative and focused; it requires so much discipline — it’s just you and your skill alone, trying to put this arrow where you want it. There’s something beautiful about me competing with me, whatever is inside me and whatever I have to overcome. I’ve had a lifelong love of archery and continue to do it to this day.

Are all the characters in Brave brave in their own way? 

Merida is very brave, Elinor and Fergus are brave, the triplets are even brave. There’s a lot of great action that shows courage in a traditional way. But I think the bravest people are the ones who own up to their mistakes and face what they don’t want to face.

In Merida’s case, it’s about accepting this life that she needs to face. She has duties and there are expectations of her that keep the kingdom at peace. So for her to be truly brave, she’ll have to assume responsibility and admit that she was wrong. That’s not easy!

How do you categorize Brave? Would you say it’s a comedy?

There’s comedy in Brave — it’s like the spice. Like a good wine or a good meal — there are subtle accents included when it comes to comedy. Brave has everything — drama, pathos, adventure, action and humor — we took a really well-rounded approach.

The music is SO lovely. Describe how it works within the context of the story. 

The music of Brave supports the story, bolstering this epic journey with Merida. The music really sets the tone for the film and underscores the time period. We wanted to capture this ancient feel of Scotland, and the music really adds another layer of authenticity.

How does Brave fit into the Pixar roster?

Every Pixar film is different, and Brave fits perfectly within the cannon of Pixar films. From superheroes to rats that can cook, to an old guy, bugs, fish, talking toys and robots. That’s why I love Pixar. I can honestly say Brave is unique — just like every other Pixar film.

Jane Boursaw is the founder and editor-in-chief of Reel Life With Jane. Her credits include hundreds of print and online publications, including The New York Times, People Magazine, Variety, Moviefone, TV Squad and more. Follow her on Twitter at @reellifejane.

Jane Boursaw has written posts on Reel Life With Jane.


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